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  Jwfacts-- More Lies But This Time About The Great Crowd

  by Recovery in

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  jwfacts has an article that explains why the great crowd must be in heaven.

  i am also aware that many of these are the same arguments that stemmed from the 'awakenings at bethel' so my statements are not simply attacks of jwfact's character (since these arguments are probably not original) but rather his copy and paste of what others have said instead of verifying it as 'fact' for himself.. so here are jwfacts arguments:.

  1. he shows that russell and rutherford (at some point) believed that the great crowd were in heaven.. 2. each term that describes the great crowd of revelation 7 is else used to described the anointed by the wt.

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  recovery, if i may ask, what are your thoughts about 607 bce and 1914?
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  How did you feel when you first celebrated Halloween or Christmas

  by trujw in

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  with the holidays amongsts us how did you feel the first time you celebrated the holidays?

  the first time i felt like i was in north korea trying to slip pass the secret police.

  how weird a wonderful family holiday and i was acting like i just stole the mona lisa..

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  i still haven't done christmas, but last halloween was my first halloween since i was maybe 6 or 7.

  it was a great experience. i've always liked halloween, even as a jw.

  so that day, started off terrible. i was depressed as can be. didn't really want to do anything, etc.

  a friend called me up and asked if i wanted to go check out the parade downtown, so i figured, "why not"?

  i dressed up as tyrone biggums, had a great time at the parade, was offered REAL CRACK from a stranger (surreal experience), and ended up bar hopping in lower manhattan. probably one of the best experiences i've ever had

  if you have the opportunity to do halloween and you have a couple good ffriends to go along with, DO IT!
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  Let's make a movie on the TRUE history of JW's.

  by EndofMysteries in

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  we know the whitewash movie they've done the past couple years.

  i can see one being done w/ the truth facts.

  showing russell and the pyrmaid stuff.

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  there is a movie lik that.

  just needs some updating. it's on youtube.

  what i'd like is for south park to give the jws a shot
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  I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

  by MC RubberMallet in

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  2. beliefs

  some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

  but even then i did not give many details about myself.

  i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

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  lasting happiness doesn't come from lies and that's all the wts has to offer
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  I was HAPPY as a JW, how did I get here?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some have figured out, but i am a poster that previously used another name.

  but even then i did not give many details about myself.

  i barely cracked 100 posts.. but i have never done a thread to explain why i am here.

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  Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception

  by Indian Larry in

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  2. bible

  please post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.

  my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.

  i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.

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  rather be in hades

  the dorman documents are also available online
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  Please Help! Wife want PROOF of Watchtower Deception

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  please post any examples of clear cut watchtower deception.

  my wife does not believe that the watchtower would purposely decieve her.

  i need clearcut examples of deception of by the wtbts.

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  i dunno if you're still reading this thread, but the walsh trial is a good one. you can even find the actual court transcript online and in there they admit to pushing false prophecy...in court.

  there's also the part where they admit it's better for everyone to believe the same lie than for everyone to think for themselves and go every which way.

  another suggestion is the san diego trial of gonzalo campos i believe his name was. in the court docs, the wts says that:

  1. witnesses don't have to go to meetings

  2. don't have to go out in service

  3. jws don't have to start bible studies, in fact that's NOT the purpose of fs at all! this is stated/typed in binding court docs

  4.jws don't have to invite anyone to meetings, again...court docs

  reason why they make all those points? to limit liability when it comes to what sexual predators are being brought into the kingdom halls

  the last suggestion i have is the timeline for john dorman's abuse. he was first abused as a 5 year old child. a man who eventually became an elder started abusing 5 year old john dorman when he was first an ms if i remember right. this continued for years and the elders did nothing despite knowing about the accusations of child molesting floating around him
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  SAD news about OOMPA......

  by redredrose in

  1. jw
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  our friend, oompa, has passed away.

  just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

  it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

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  rather be in hades

  when we leave this world, there is no jw vs. worldly, there is no watchtower, there is no snare and racket.

  only peace.

  rip oompa
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  Jwfacts, Why Do You Equate Miracles With Magic?

  by Recovery in

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  i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.

  as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.

  "the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.

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  does it actually exist?

  14 pages discussing things that have a high likelihood of not even being real in the first place lol
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  Jwfacts, Why Do You Equate Miracles With Magic?

  by Recovery in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.

  as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.

  "the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.

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  rather be in hades

  i think the first question that should be asked is if magic or miracles are actually possible.

  if they are possible, then questioning the difference between magic and miracles makes sense and demanding the author retract/edit is reasonable.

  if they are not possible and do not exist in reality, then the statement made can take on different meanings.